{"id":29382,"date":"2019-09-10T07:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-09-10T05:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/?p=29382"},"modified":"2022-05-21T10:44:02","modified_gmt":"2022-05-21T08:44:02","slug":"att-aka-dn-taget-till-europa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/index.php\/att-aka-dn-taget-till-europa\/","title":{"rendered":"Att \u00e5ka DN-t\u00e5get till Europa, hur \u00e4r det? Vi har kollat med en som var med"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>En vecka p\u00e5 samma t\u00e5g genom Europa. Ett f\u00f6retag som skulle vara om\u00f6jligt att genomf\u00f6ra. Tills dess att det faktiskt gjordes. Som s\u00e5 mycket annat &#8221;om\u00f6jligt&#8221; h\u00e4r i v\u00e4rlden. Och inte av SJ, eller av n\u00e5gon av charterbolagen. Som man kanske skulle ha kunnat f\u00f6rv\u00e4nta sig. I st\u00e4llet var det <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dn.se\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dagens Nyheter<\/a>, som tillsammans med <a href=\"https:\/\/www.varldensresor.se\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">V\u00e4rldens Resor<\/a> till slut genomf\u00f6rde id\u00e9n.<\/p>\n<p>N\u00e4r DN\u00b4s f\u00f6rsta chartrade t\u00e5g ner till Europa l\u00e4mnade Stockholm den 25:e augusti hade det varit fullbokat egentligen \u00e4nda sedan biljetterna sl\u00e4pptes f\u00f6rra h\u00f6sten. Anders Westerlund och hans fru Gunilla var tv\u00e5 av dem som f\u00f6ljde med p\u00e5 turen. Anders har Facebook-uppdaterat genom hela resan och jag \u00e4r en av m\u00e5nga som ivrigt f\u00f6ljt med och l\u00e4st om <em>alpvandringar, klimatf\u00f6rl\u00e4sningar, brandlarm, och duschbrist<\/em>. Om <em>Wienerschnitzel, konstutst\u00e4llningar och danskv\u00e4ll i clubvagnen<\/em>.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_29402\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-29402\" style=\"width: 960px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-29402 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag.jpg 960w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag-800x600.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-29402\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alla foton: Anders Westerlund<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Jag var ju p\u00e5 <a href=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/index.php\/forelasning-i-stockholm-dn-taget-genom-europa-och-sa-lite-gdpr-pa-det\/\">DN\u00b4s informationstr\u00e4ff om resan<\/a> i h\u00f6stas och lockas verkligen av id\u00e9n att susa fram genom Europa p\u00e5 r\u00e4ls. Och utan att beh\u00f6va byta och trassla 16 g\u00e5nger liksom! Det \u00e4r n\u00e5got gammaldags romantiskt \u00f6ver hela iden och f\u00e4rds\u00e4ttet. Samtidigt som jag inte kan hj\u00e4lpa att jag b\u00e4var lite f\u00f6r gruppresek\u00e4nslan och &#8221;tr\u00e5ngboddheten&#8221;. Jag bad helt enkelt Anders om en intervju f\u00f6r att ta reda p\u00e5 hur det var.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Fr\u00e5n Bolzano mot Venedig. Efter en liten timme gick brandlarmet och r\u00f6k sipprade in. T\u00e5get k\u00f6rde bara vidare som om inget hade h\u00e4nt. S\u00e5 sm\u00e5ningom kom en tillkallad t\u00e5gtekniker och kastade sej p\u00e5 n\u00f6dbromsen i v\u00e5r kupe.<br \/>\nDet visade sig att det bara var bromsarna under oss som l\u00e5st sig. Vi sprang som yra h\u00f6ns ett tag men kunde \u00e5terv\u00e4nda n\u00e4r r\u00f6ken f\u00f6rsvann. Nu \u00e4r allt lugnt och vi v\u00e4ntar p\u00e5 att bromsarna skall svalna. Kan ta en timme eller s\u00e5. Venedig v\u00e4ntar nog p\u00e5 oss.<\/p>\n<p>Anders Westerlund<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-29401\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/rals.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/rals.jpg 960w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/rals-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/rals-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/rals-800x600.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">F\u00f6rst av allt, hur var det, var resan bra, \u00e4r du n\u00f6jd? <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja, vi \u00e4r b\u00e4gge, min fru Gunilla och jag fyllda av upplevelser och mycket n\u00f6jda med arrangemanget trots att det kostade 20.000 kr\/ man.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ber\u00e4tta lite om resan, hur l\u00e5ng var den och vilka platser bes\u00f6kte ni?\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Resan var en vecka l\u00e5ng. Vi \u00e5kte allts\u00e5 direktt\u00e5g fr\u00e5n Stockholm ner\u00a0 till Venedig. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">F\u00f6rsta dagen p\u00e5 nerv\u00e4g var det 2 f\u00f6rel\u00e4sningar av Peter Wolodarski och Bj\u00f6rn Wiman om klimatet ombord p\u00e5 t\u00e5get.<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Andra dagen tillbringades i Berlin med 3 olika grupparrangemang plus bes\u00f6k p\u00e5 svenska ambassaden med f\u00f6redrag om Berlin av Lisa Lund, DNs korrespondent.<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tredje dagen var det vandring i Dolomiterna p\u00e5 2000 m h\u00f6jd med utg\u00e5ngspunkt fr\u00e5n Bolzano.<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sen ner till Venedig p\u00e5 kv\u00e4llen. H\u00e4r v\u00e4ntade ett 5***** hotell. Och f\u00f6rsta duschen p\u00e5 resan!<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fj\u00e4rde dagen bes\u00f6kte vi Konstbiennalen i Venedig. Samt mingel och f\u00f6redrag av Bj\u00f6rn Wiman.<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Femte dagen gjorde vi staden p\u00e5 egen hand. Och Peggy Guggenheim-museet.<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">P\u00e5 kv\u00e4llen b\u00f6rjade t\u00e5get rulla tillbaka. F\u00f6rst till Verona d\u00e4r vi s\u00e5g operan Tosca p\u00e5 Veronas amfiteater under kv\u00e4llen.<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sj\u00e4tte dagen gjorde vi Wien p\u00e5 egen hand. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Och sedan p\u00e5 v\u00e4g till Rostock med dans p\u00e5 kv\u00e4llen i klubbvagnen.<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sjunde dagen rullade vi p\u00e5 f\u00e4rjan till Trelleborg p\u00e5 f\u00f6rmiddagen. Och \u00e5kte raka sp\u00e5ret hem.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-29404\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/opera.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/opera.jpg 960w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/opera-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/opera-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/opera-800x600.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hur m\u00e5nga resen\u00e4rer var ni? Hur s\u00e5g \u00e5ldersf\u00f6rdelningen ut? P\u00e5 informationsm\u00f6tet p\u00e5 DN i h\u00f6stas, som jag var p\u00e5, var medel\u00e5ldern h\u00f6g, minns jag.<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">350 st, de flesta pigga pension\u00e4rer, n\u00e5gra med g\u00e5stavar. Ingen klagade eller blev efter.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hur sov\/bodde man p\u00e5 resan?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Till grundpriset sov man i <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">liggvagnar med 4-5 personer i.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tv\u00e5 sovvagnar fanns, men till ett mycket dyrt till\u00e4gg. Man kunde \u00e4ven k\u00f6pa liggkup\u00e9 f\u00f6r 2 ocks\u00e5.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-29409\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/station-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"770\" height=\"578\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/station-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/station-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/station-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/station-800x600.jpg 800w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/station.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 770px) 100vw, 770px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hur var det att bo s\u00e5 \u201ctight\u201d med andra m\u00e4nniskor i dagar och n\u00e4tter p\u00e5 ett t\u00e5g?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dom flesta tyckte nog att det var b\u00e5de sp\u00e4nnande och samtidigt tr\u00e5ngt och att det blev stimulerande m\u00f6ten p\u00e5 grund av detta.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Flera \u201ck\u00e4nda ansikten\u201d (i alla fall f\u00f6r en DN-l\u00e4sare) var med p\u00e5 t\u00e5get, bla chefredakt\u00f6r Peter Wolodarski? Hur var det, vad gjorde de, vad bidrog de med?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">De h\u00f6ll f\u00f6rel\u00e4sningar under resan. B\u00e5de p\u00e5 t\u00e5get och under stoppen. Till exempel i Berlin och i Venedig.\u00a0 Bj\u00f6rn var mycket aktiv under hela resan.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-29405\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/farja-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/farja-2.jpg 720w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/farja-2-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Har du tidigare gjort egna \u201cvanliga\u201d t\u00e5gresor ut i Europa?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Inte jag men hustrun har gjort det. 1967 och -68 till Paris.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Om ja, hur var detta s\u00e4tt att resa j\u00e4mf\u00f6r med dessa resor?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Icke j\u00e4mf\u00f6rbart med charter. Vanligt t\u00e5g \u00e4r en transport. Den h\u00e4r reseformen ger m\u00f6jlighet till att knyta kontakter med nya m\u00e4nniskor p\u00e5 ett helt annat s\u00e4tt.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Vilken var h\u00f6jdpunkten p\u00e5 resan? <\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Venedig och Biennalen d\u00e4r var det allra b\u00e4sta.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-29407\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/venedig2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/venedig2.jpg 720w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/venedig2-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Vad \u00e4r, som du ser det den st\u00f6rsta f\u00f6rdelen med denna form av resande? (chartrat t\u00e5g allts\u00e5).<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Man reser l\u00e5ngsamt och med lust i st\u00e4llet f\u00f6r med flygskam.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Och nackdelen?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tr\u00e5ngt, lite korta s\u00e4ngar och d\u00e5lig AC. Men ingen brydde sej.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-29408\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/69552735_10157288412497570_5740039940733927424_n.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/69552735_10157288412497570_5740039940733927424_n.jpg 960w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/69552735_10157288412497570_5740039940733927424_n-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/69552735_10157288412497570_5740039940733927424_n-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/69552735_10157288412497570_5740039940733927424_n-800x600.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hur m\u00e5nga procent charter\/gruppresa var k\u00e4nslan och hur m\u00e5nga procent \u00e4ventyr?\u00a0<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">30\/70 skulle jag s\u00e4ga. Mest \u00e4ventyr allts\u00e5.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Kommer du att \u00e5ka p\u00e5 resa med chartrat t\u00e5g igen?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">G\u00e4rna.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Har jag gl\u00f6mt att fr\u00e5ga n\u00e5got?<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ja du har gl\u00f6mt att fr\u00e5ga om en viktig aspekt. V\u00e4rldens resor och DN hade minst 10 guider med p\u00e5 hela resan, en del mycket kunniga. T\u00e5get, som var tyskt hade en v\u00e4rd i varje vagn som s\u00e5g till oss. Vi blev oerh\u00f6rt v\u00e4l omh\u00e4ndertagna under hela resan.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-29406\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Bolzano.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"960\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Bolzano.jpg 720w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Bolzano-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-29410\" src=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"720\" srcset=\"https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag2.jpg 960w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag2-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/4000mil.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/tag2-800x600.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 960px) 100vw, 960px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Vill du l\u00e4sa fler inl\u00e4gg om t\u00e5gresande? Gl\u00f6m inte att <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/4000mil\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">gilla 4000mil p\u00e5 Facebook.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En vecka p\u00e5 samma t\u00e5g genom Europa. Ett f\u00f6retag som skulle vara om\u00f6jligt att genomf\u00f6ra. Tills dess att det faktiskt gjordes. Som s\u00e5 mycket annat &#8221;om\u00f6jligt&#8221; h\u00e4r i v\u00e4rlden. Och inte av SJ, eller av n\u00e5gon av charterbolagen. Som man kanske skulle ha kunnat f\u00f6rv\u00e4nta sig. 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